How to Get AI to Recommend Your Business

Originally aired Wednesday, September 9, 2026. Businessing is now a weekly show with a new episode every Monday.

Somebody in your town is getting recommended by AI right now, and there’s a good chance it isn’t you. There’s no magic to how it picks. It reads what the web already says about you, then answers three questions: can it find you, can it trust you, and can it quote you.

Pat walks through what actually moves the needle on each one. The Google My Business profile nobody updates, claiming Bing in fifteen minutes, getting your name said in rooms you’re not in, and putting the answer in the first paragraph of a blog post instead of burying it. Then the piece he didn’t see coming: describing yourself the exact same way everywhere on the web, because years of old titles and old brands turn you into a jumbled up mess an AI can’t trust. And the reality check, Google still sends 89% of the traffic and AI chatbots send about 1%, so you’re not behind.

Idea Slam Mailbag takes a question straight out of the community. Somebody’s thirty minutes late to your meeting, so how long do you wait? Pat’s answer is ten minutes and an instant reschedule, plus the line that changed how he shows up: your punctuality is directly proportional to how important you think the meeting is. The last story is the NFL playing in Australia tonight, which is a lookalike audience play you can run at your size, without a stadium.

Businessing is the weekly show where small business owners figure out what to do next. Hosted by Pat Miller, founder of the Small Business Owners Community: owners only, nobody pitching, $19 a month.

In this episode

• 00:00 – Nobody taught you how to run a business, and today it’s getting found by AI
• 00:54 – How do you get your business recommended by AI
• 02:04 – SEO, AEO, GEO, and why the letters barely matter
• 02:52 – You’re not behind, Google is still 89% of the traffic
• 03:43 – The three questions: can it find you, trust you, quote you
• 04:26 – Can it find you, and the Google My Business profile nobody updates
• 05:37 – Can it trust you: reviews, citations, and other people’s pages
• 07:19 – Can it quote you: put the answer in the first paragraph
• 10:27 – The trust signal nobody mentions, describe yourself the same way everywhere
• 12:25 – Here’s the homework, go search yourself in an incognito session
• 13:19 – Google Search Console now shows which AI are recommending you
• 14:45 – Money Masters Bookkeeping
• 16:33 – Idea Slam Mailbag: they’re thirty minutes late, how long do you wait
• 17:58 – The ten minute rule, then it’s an instant reschedule
• 18:43 – Your punctuality says what you think the meeting is worth
• 21:10 – The NFL is playing in Australia tonight, and it’s a business decision
• 22:01 – Foureva Media
• 24:16 – Lookalike audiences, and how to run one at your size
• 25:58 – Partner up, change the geography, productize the side thing
• 29:42 – This week in the SBOC, and tomorrow we build a conference

Resources mentioned

• Claude training for small business owners
• SBOC26 Conference, September 15-17 in Brookfield
• Money Masters Bookkeeping
• Foureva Media

More on this topic: AI answers from the Small Business Owners Community

Full transcript

We’re chasing dreams. Good morning. It’s Wednesday, September 9, and we are businessing. This is the show that helps you because nobody taught you how to run a business, but yet you’re running one anyway. I’m Pat Miller, founder of the small business owners community, host of the show. Damn glad to see you.

Sponsored this morning by Money Masters, Bookkeeping, and Foureva Media. On the show today, we’re gonna talk about the NFL season being back, And they’re doing something interesting that maybe we can rip off. I mean, we could be inspired by. We’ll talk about that. We will also see how is your patience.

Do you have a lot of patience when you have a meeting with someone and they’re late? There’s a question right out of the small business owners community. How much grace do you give someone when they’re late for a meeting?

We’ll talk about that in the idea slam, and we’ll start with the AI or the businessing big story of the day, which has to do with AI. Good morning, Barbara. Great to see you. Welcome to the show. How do you get your business recommended by AI? Seems to be something everyone has on their mind.

Because when you talk to your AI friend and you say, I need to know this answer to my question, it goes and finds the information someplace, so why not recommend you? And the way people are finding information is changing, not drastically, but it’s starting to change. For example, Google is seeing phone calls going down from Google My Business.

Also, clicks from websites in Google is going down, down 12%, in this year because I think of the AI summaries that are at the top of the Google searches. So it used to be, I need to know a thing, I go to Google, I ask it a question, it serves me an answer.

Well, that is starting to change because now we’re turning to our AI bots and we’re getting our information from them. So how do we get their attention? There’s an alphabet soup of getting attention. There’s old school SEO. You know SEO, or at least you’ve heard of it.

Search engine optimization, where you teach Google what you’re about and when Google should put you in front of people. So when they type in best small business community on the planet, we show up. That’s what you wanna have happen. That’s traditional. But now there’s AEO and GEO.

AEO, answer engine optimization, and then GEO, generative engine optimization. The letters are somewhat interchangeable for normal people like us, totally interchangeable. Basically, we’re teaching AI bots when to serve our information.

And it would be very natural right now as I’m explaining this to you to sound the alarms and there’s a siren going off in the background and you’re late. You’re not late. We need to pay attention to this, but you’re not behind. How do we know you’re not behind? Google is still sending 89% of the traffic out on the planet.

The latest estimate that the total references coming from AI chatbots is around 1%. So this is not a huge thing yet, but it is starting to percolate in some sections, and we might as well do the work. So let’s go through what matters if you want an AI to find you on its search results.

Because you want it to say, oh, well, the best person in the world to do the thing is you, and then you show up as the one that you’re going to get referenced. There are three things to keep in mind when you’re doing this work. An AI wants to know, can it find you? Can it trust you? And can it quote you?

If you think about what happens when you type into an AI search, I need information on this, and it’s gonna reference someone, it has to have information that it can quote. It’s scraping it from some place. So it’s asking it itself the questions. Okay. I need information on this thing. Who can I find? Okay. Is this person for real?

Can I trust them? And do they have the answer? Can I quote them? 12, three. Bing, bang, boom. How can it do this? So one, can it find you? One of the big pieces that’s gonna help you is your Google My Business profile. Isn’t it funny how it just keeps on coming up again and again and we never talk about it?

The Google My Business profile is one of the places you need to keep up, you need to keep current. Categories, hours, photos, reviews. It just seems like the forgotten driver of traffic, and we just don’t talk about it enough. So make sure your Google My Business profile is up to the way that it should be.

Second thing you should do with that profile is post new things to it. When Google’s looking for one of these profiles, it’s gonna look and see, well, is this person active? Are they adding content to their Google profile? So get in the habit of maybe posting a blog, posting an information post, doing something so there’s a freshness score.

Talking about stuff we don’t talk about, go out and claim Bing. Yes. Bing. Fifteen minutes doesn’t take long. It’s just another place for you to show up. So those are a few things you can do about can you get known. The second thing is can it trust you? This is just like the old school know, like, and trust.

I know about this person, but, you know, are they trustworthy? Can I recommend them to other people? So it’s gonna look for, trust where people are saying your name when you’re not in the room. So, are you getting Google reviews updated? And are you getting listed on other places? Is your work being cited on other people’s blogs?

Are you a guest on other people’s podcasts and then your hyperlink is shared on the episodes that they release? Are you listed on the local chamber of commerce page? Are you out there on the planet being referred to as the person that does the thing and people can find you in other ways?

This is kinda like old school backlinks, which is something that we did way back in the day getting listed on other people’s pages was always good for SEO, still good today. In fact, in the SBOC, I’m gonna put up a post soon, and I’m gonna ask who here would like to trade links? Who wants to do a guest blog on my blog?

I can do a guest blog on their blog, who has a podcast that we can refer one another back and forth because all of that stuff matters where you’re getting listed on other people’s stuff. There’s one other thing that in the early days of SEO worked, but AI is too smart for it. Let’s say you’re a ramen shop in Milwaukee.

In the old days, you could put up here are the 10 best ramen shops in Wisconsin, and you could list yourself as number one. It’s looking for self promotional content. That’s not gonna work anymore. Good morning, Stephanie. Great to see you. Welcome to the show.

The third thing, it’s gotta know you, it’s gotta trust you, and it’s gotta be able to quote you. That’s the third most important part. So are you putting your thoughts out on the web? Are you kicking butt with your blog? Are you podcasting? Are you contributing what you’re put… What you have to say for others to consume?

If you’re not putting out what you think, it certainly can’t quote you. Very important. Good morning, Theresa. Welcome to the show. So what it wants you to do and what I was coached to do, thanks, Claude, is to put answers out on the web and make sure that the answer is in the very beginning of the post. No cliffhangers.

AI wants to see the question and the answer straight away. I’ll give you an example. com and redoing the entire page. And when I did it, it reworked my blog. My blog, small business help, has 280 some odd blog posts that I’ve been creating. And it went through and it stylized it for what AI wants. So should you use AI images in your business?

Here’s the answer. Use AI to run your business faster behind the scenes and be very careful about putting AI generated images in front of your customers. A growing chunk of the public does not like AI pictures. And I answered the question in this very first paragraph. Claude actually did this for me.

But this is something an AI would love because if it gets gets asked the question, should you use AI images in your business, it’s got a very clear and very concise answer here. Then the rest of the blog goes on with other questions. Why do people react so strong? What does this mean? Should I stop using AI in the business? All of these questions.

Then some, FAQ kind of questions are in here as well. So this is how Claude rewrote my blog. So it is ready for AI to quote it. Now an owner could go there and get the same amount of information, find it organically, but it’s been optimized for, can it quote me?

So when someone asks a question about, in this case, AI images in your business, the blog is ready to be quoted. Another thing that it says it wants you to do is it wants FAQs on your website.

It wants detailed information about, some of the common questions you get to help make the experience richer when it’s trying to, reference you and quote you.

Then the fourth thing that it’s looking for, and this is something I wasn’t aware of, it’s a huge trust signal, is you need to make sure that you’re talking about yourself in the same way every place. As I mentioned on yesterday’s show, I had stuff on the web as Pat Miller, the idea coach.

I had stuff on the web as the idea collective small business community. I had stuff on the web about SBOC pro and the twenty twenty three conference, and all of this stuff was heritage stuff, but I moved on from some of those things.

So if someone was looking up Pat Miller, it would come back as Pat Miller, the idea coach, Pat Miller, the host of business scene, Pat Miller, the host of the Pat Miller show. All of this stuff, and it was a big jumbled up mess. And over the weekend, I went through and I did all of that stuff where I went through… And it did. Thank you, Claude.

It went through every page on the web, everything it could find about me, all of my social profiles, and we updated it to the exact same thing. It’s gonna take a minute now, so this is the last part of it. This is not something that happens overnight. You install the one description. You start answering questions on your blogs.

You start getting trust signals from other people. You’re doing everything you need to do. Your Google Business Profile is the way it needs to be. This is not a light switch. As much as we want it to be a light switch, this is gonna take time because it’s gonna have three different speeds. It’s gonna have when AI is searching for you.

It’s gonna have ingesting all of your own web pages, and then it’s gonna have to take time to propagate into the AI answers themselves. And all of those are gonna happen at different speeds as much as we wanna click the button and be like in chat GPT, it’s not gonna happen very fast. But it’s not gonna happen at all if you don’t do this homework.

And this is mind numbing, and it’s granular, and I’d rather shine my bowling ball than go through this again because it was really frustrating. But Claude led me through it, so that’s the good news. Claude’s fable model, and I’m sure ChatGPT’s Astra model, would be able to get you through this in no problem.

But if you wanna get found by AI, this is the type of homework that you need to do. So what I would encourage you to do is go into, in, Claude, you can go in and do an anonymous session, like a a browser session that doesn’t identify who you are. And, Scott, welcome to the show on Instagram. Great to see you.

And, Michael, awesome to see you as well on the show. Go into a random browser, like an incognito browser in Cloud or ChatGPT, and ask it, who’s the best blank in your city or the one thing you teach on?

Like, I teach on Claude training for small business owners, and I would put in there, who’s someone I could learn Claude from specifically for small business owners and see what comes up. You’ll know in a hurry if you’re getting listed or if you’re not.

And one more thing that I learned, is that the Google Search Console is now giving you detailed information on which AI are recommending you and how. I went through this morning, and it was LOL. I asked Claude to check it. It logged in. It checked it. Claude basically laughed at me. LOL. No one’s referencing you.

But I just did all this work, so fingers crossed. Hopefully, together, we can start showing up in people’s AI chats. That’s how you get your business referenced inside AI, and good luck to you. It’s funny because inside the Claude training session inside my, community group that I lead, we had an entire AEO GEO exercise up inside the Claude server.

Because when you work with me, I not only teach you how to run Claude, but I also give you access to my server, and we had a whole exercise in there to tune up your AEO and your GEO. One of our members got found inside Claude, got the business too. So I don’t know how fast it’s gonna happen. Hopefully, it happens fast for you. com.

IdeaSlam mailbag coming up. It’s a question straight out of the community, and I wanna hear your answer. You have a meeting with someone. They’re running late. How long do you wait? Everyone has a different threshold. We’ll talk about that in the idea slam mailbag in a second. Dave Martin, awesome to see you, friend.

Welcome to the show on Instagram. We will do that idea slam question after we talk about our presenting sponsor, Money Masters Bookkeeping. They are presenting SBOC twenty six, which is happening six days from now, which is absolutely incredible. And Money Masters is here to help you know the answers that you get asked about the business.

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Thank you, Barbara, for sponsoring the show and the conference. Steve Glenn, great to see you. Welcome to the show here on LinkedIn. Idea slam mailbag. This question literally came up in the small business owners community, and I want you to answer it. So this is the part where you go into the comments and you do the thing.

How annoyed are you when people are running thirty to forty five minutes late for an appointment, and how do you handle it? I’m doing meetings four, five a day. I’m sure you’re doing doing meetings four, five a day. And sometimes it’s really easy to lose track and to join a Zoom late or have things come up. So do you have a standing policy?

How do you handle when people are running late, and how long do you wait? So let’s start here. You’re not a monster. I’m not a monster. Things happen. Things happen all the time that are way more important than meeting with me. Right? Life happens. So I never wanna be an ogre about someone running late.

That being said, you don’t wanna get walked all over either. You gotta make sure that you have some sort of practice. You can’t just sit on Zoom for twenty minutes to wait until someone’s gonna show up or not. So how long do you wait and how do you handle it? Here’s how I handle it.

Let’s say I was meeting with Steve, and he would never be late because Steve is always on time. But let’s say I was meeting with Steve, and it’s supposed to start at one, and it’s 01:02. He’s not there. It’s 01:03. He’s not there. Fine. No problem.

Maybe he has to find the link or he’s having a hard time logging on to Google Meets or whatever it might be. Gets to be 01:05. I might send a text. I might send an email. Gets to be one o… 01:10. I’m out. No. I’m out. If someone was thirty to forty five minutes late like the question was asking, there is no meeting.

And, again, that’s plenty of grace time. Someone’s running late, fine. Thirty minutes, that’s not accidentally running late. And it’s partially for best practices, but it’s also, I got another meeting happening in thirty minutes. I can’t wait to start this meeting for thirty minutes and then have a whole hour long meeting. There’s stuff to do.

So it’s an instant reschedule after ten minutes on my end. The other thing about running late for appointments, and someone shared this with me once, and I never forgot it. And it’s so great that Dave Martin’s on the show because I remember distinctly.

I had a meeting early in my time in Wisconsin with Dave, someone who I massively respect, And I didn’t know how long it took to get to Madison, and I showed up late. And I was so angry, and he was so graceful. So Dave, so thank you for your grace. I really appreciate it.

But I was really frustrated with myself because I felt like I disrespected him. And someone shared me… Shared with me at some time that your punctuality for a meeting is directly proportional to your perceived importance of the meeting. Think about it. If you’re meeting with someone like Dave, you would not wanna be late because he’s fantastic.

Or you’re meeting with the president of Netflix who’s gonna offer you a show. There’s no chance you’re gonna be late to that. Why? They’re a big deal. They’re offering you a big opportunity. You know you won’t be late till the meetings are important. So here’s the thing.

When you’re late to someone, you’re late to a meeting, are you sending the message to them overtly or covertly that their meeting and their time isn’t important? Someone said that to me once, and it really changed the way that I try and show up at meetings on time. And let’s see. Alan’s got a great point here. Great to see you, Alan.

Welcome to the show. College rules, ten minutes and classes canceled. Yes. And if it’s really college rules, ten minutes, class is canceled, and we’re going to the bar. That’s the real… I mean, I went to Illinois State University. Beer drinking was a minor, actually a major. Might have gotten my MBA, master’s degree in beer drinking.

But that’s how I handle meetings. Curious how you handle yours. Give them grace. Don’t be a jerk about it. Go longer than thirty minutes. You gotta reschedule. Ten minutes rather, you gotta reschedule. Thirty minutes isn’t an accident.

And remember, even if you don’t mean it, showing up late to a meeting will reflect how much you respect that person, and it will also say something about you as well. Alright. We’re gonna do one more topic. The NFL is playing tonight, and let’s just pause. Just NFL is back, baby. Has it been just the longest desert of suck ever? We went through…

And and I heard someone say this, and I didn’t realize this. The NFL has the longest off season. I didn’t realize that, but it’s true. Longest off season. Finally, the NFL is back tonight. So it has been a long off season, and it starts tonight as the NFL will be in Australia. And I was thinking about that. Why are they in Australia?

It’s all about business. So what can we learn? What what what can we daydream for our business thinking about the NFL doing business in Australia? We’ll talk about that in a minute. But first, our other partner today, Foureva Media, the team there, and Jamar Jones, they are such a great partner.

They believe that building a business by yourself is the hardest way to do it. You gotta have people around you, but you gotta have the right people around you. If you don’t have the right people around you, you could be held back. So at Foureva Media, what do they do?

They strengthen your brand, they help you grow the business, and they get you into a circle of people that are going to move you forward. And their entire philosophy is that you’re a smart business owner. You don’t need more information.

You need practical strategy, you need some accountability, and you need real support from people at your level or above. That’s why they run the Forever Circle membership and the Six Figure Circle. Doing all this stuff by yourself can grind you down.

And if you don’t feel like you’re getting the impact, you’re not getting the accountability that you need, Foureva Media is here to support you. com and their podcast, when you’re there. Foureva Media, change your circle, change your business. Jamar Jones, thanks for your partnership. Look forward to seeing you in six days at SBOC twenty six.

NFL is back tonight, bears, and I’m super excited, bears. It’s been a long summer, bears. And tonight, it’s what? Who is it? Forty niners and rams. Yeah. Forty niners and rams tonight. So great game Wednesday night tonight in, Australia. And I was thinking, you know, just objectively, why are we going to Australia to play a football game?

The time zones and the weirdness, like, why can’t they just start in San Francisco or in, Los Angeles? And, obviously, it’s for money. It’s for business purposes. It’s for growing the league. It’s for making more money. And I thought, okay. Let’s run the thought exercise. What can we take from that? Can we take anything from it?

Because we’re not billion dollar brands yet. We are doing what we’re doing. And Tyler, come on. Get out of here, bears. What are you doing? Good to see you, Tyler. Welcome to the show. So I started daydreaming a little bit. What are they doing by showing up there? They are exposing the product to a new market. We do that all the time.

We show up to a new networking room. We run ads. We do something at the top of our funnel, social media. We’re trying to bump into new people that might like us. NFL is doing that. But more specifically, the NFL is putting their product inside what Facebook would call a lookalike audience.

They’re showing up in another country that has sports fans, and they’re exposing their sport to a country that likes sports but maybe not NFL. They’re also reaching out to Americans or expats that live in Australia.

So they’re showing up in a place where they don’t normally exist, they are getting in front of a look alike audience, and they’re finding a very small audience in comparison to the overall size of the country of people that would be really excited to see them.

Americans or former Americans or people that studied abroad in The US that are now in Australia. So it’s an audience play. They’re gonna sell out a stadium. They’ll have, I don’t know, 80,000 people watching it. It’ll be shown on TV in Australia, obviously shown on TV here in The US. So how could we steal that idea?

How could we take our product or what we do and kind of replicate that? How might we, great brainstorming question, how might we do the same thing? We could expose ourselves to different audiences by partnering with people. So I could do an event with Tyler. I could do an event with Scott. I could do an event with Michael.

And Michael’s people will get in front of my people and my people will get in front of Michael’s people so we can find a new audience and we do that. We partner and we exchange stuff all the time. That’s not too complex. But there may be something here geography wise.

If you are a bookkeeper, let’s talk about Barbara, and you service people in Madison. Let’s say you service real estate agents in Madison. Well, real estate agents in Madison may want to know real estate agents in Milwaukee, but you don’t normally service Milwaukee.

So you could go to your community and say, hey, I’m going to partner with a bookkeeper or I’m going to partner with a bank in Milwaukee and invite Realtors from Milwaukee to meet up with my Realtors from Madison. Now you’re taking your product and your benefit and you’re reaching out to a new geography. That’s a way you could do it.

You could also productize your business. You could say, I offer this service for my clients, and here’s the thing that’s kind of on the side, and I could make that available. Another way to expose the product to a group or a community that doesn’t already consume your product. And we could keep going on this. Does anything come to mind?

Like the NFL is there making all of this money, and they’re in this market where they don’t normally go. And the natural fit is to think, oh, well, they just wanna put a football team in Australia. I don’t know if they do. Not yet. Maybe in Europe, I think that’s coming. But we can think about this. Could you create a live event in a new place?

Could you create a current product for a new audience? Could you do a co branded show with someone? One thing that YouTube does, which is actually really cool, you can tag people’s audiences.

So let’s say Tyler was my guest on this show, when I publish it to YouTube, I could tag it as me and Tyler with this episode, which naturally cross pollinates our audiences. This show also… The way that this show is done is I do it on Restream. If you were a guest on this show, you could rebroadcast this show on your social media sites.

So I could do a partnership week where I’m sharing information across guests, profiles, and they would get some exposure for me and some exposure for you as well. It’s a nontraditional way to think about it. I thought it was a fun exercise, and I really can’t stop thinking about football anyway, Bears, because it’s here.

And those of you that are into football, I mean, come on. Football you got your fantasy football league set don’t forget to set your lineups because there’s a game tonight how many leagues are you in fantasy football people how many leagues are you in I’m in two, but they’re mega dork leagues. Superflex, Keeper, Dynasty, salary caps, contracts.

I guess, it’s kind of embarrassing, actually, but it’s awesome. So I got my two leagues all fired up, and I’m ready to go, and I wish you luck in your fantasy leagues as well. Lisa’s got a great point. Yes, Lisa. This entire thing supports Australian tourism. It’s a cross functional strategic partnership. Boom.

Another way that you can drive revenue for you and a partner. Thank you, Lisa. Great point. Awesome to see you. Welcome to the show. Let’s talk about what’s happening in the next week because it’s a big one for the small business owners community. Today is Wednesday. On Wednesday inside the SBOC, we co work.

That means we get together on Zoom, and we work together for two hours, Pomodoro style. What is that? Twenty five minutes on, five minutes off? I think that’s the number. And you get together, you say in this twenty five minutes, I’m gonna do this. And everyone turns off their screens and their microphones, they work for twenty five minutes.

And then they take five minutes off. How did you do? Did you get the thing done? Okay. What are you gonna do next? Go back and do another twenty five minute flop. And after a couple of those sessions, you’re gonna look up and realize, oh my gosh, I got so much done. So Wednesday is for productivity. Thursday, tomorrow is the idea slam.

So the idea slam is going to be, our chance to get together and solve problems and capture opportunities. So you bring to the show, tomorrow at 01:00. What are you working on? And then all the owners in the room offer feedback with one another as well.

And then on Friday, that’s where we do the Friday finish line, our small business celebration to reflect on everything we’ve done, and we think about how far we’ve come this week.

Because when you run your own business, you don’t have a boss, and it makes you feel good to do good things, but you have no one to share it with, except you’re gonna high five the dog. That’s it. So we get together on Friday, and we celebrate our wins. Dave’s got a great comment here. Dave is sharing… Thank you, Dave, by the way, for Instagram.

I didn’t see your comment here. The live sports media market generated $77,000,000,000 in 2025. It’s the last major revenue engine in legacy media. The value is the fan community. Absolutely. And you are right on that the revenue is in live sports for sure. Thank you for contributing that day. Great. And it’s great to see you this morning.

Thanks for tuning in. That wraps up today’s show. Tomorrow, we’re gonna be live again at 11AM central. So tomorrow, we’re talking about what I’m actually doing building a conference. If you’ve ever thought about hosting your own event, how do you design it, who do you invite, how does it work, how do you make the most of it?

I’ve been building conferences for years and years and years before that doing broadcasting, holding events like crazy. What have I learned about how to build your own room? Why would you want it, and how do you make it great? We’ll do that right here tomorrow morning at 11AM central.

I’m Pat Miller, founder of the small business owners community, host to the show. Thanks for tuning in. I appreciate you coming by. Talk to you tomorrow at 11AM central. Now go sell something. Talk to you then.